Oh it's different alright. I am a life-long pacifist and proponent of non-violent social change. But I am so enraged at what he has done/is doing that if he can't (for whatever reason) be arrested, charged, and convicted ASAP for his crimes against the American people, and he can't (for whatever reason) be deported and permanently banned from US soil ASAP, then what I want for him is no longer something I can safely say out loud or online. I will not apologize or reconsider my position on this.
I should also mention that my belief in that is mostly when I read news of that idiot Elmo. I very definitely would advocate against anything like what Luigi did on the political stage. The enemy would use such an event to bring on Reichstag Fire On Steroids; there is already the fact that Dilbert would like to use the Insurrection Act - which is pretty thorough in giving him truly dictatorial powers - and looks for the excuse to do so. Which we must not give him.
The only thing stoping him is that the population and size of the country is bigger than the military and their available resource’s. I think there is an understanding that taking that action would cross the line for everyone and then he would have real issues.
The ‘stunts’ being pulled are beyond infuriating and are generating an enormous amount of outrage and hate, rightly so!!! For me, especially, are cruel acts that endanger innocent Americans who are just trying to live their lives… for example, shutting down the CDC with a potential pandemic in the works, and NOAA, with hurricane season pending, a real danger for those of us in hurricane alley, 🤬🤬🤬
Even Marshall Rosenberg acknowledged that there is such a thing as “the protective use of force”. I, too, find myself considering what sort of extrajudicial remedies would be appropriate in this case.
I'm a lifelong activist, too. I started at 18 protesting that first corporate tool President, Reagan. We need MILLIONS in the street, like South Korea, to stop all of this. How do we do it? Now the Koch-funded fake grassroots orgs are producing enemies lists, using DEI and contributing to Dems as reasons to brand someone a traitor. These MAGA cultists need to get their heads out of Trump's behind and join us, or they will go down with us.
When decisions are made it’s best to look at what you want to go towards rather than get away from. There is so much turmoil but for me a simple distillation is the takeover of the nation by oligarchs.
I'd like to go to the founding principles enumerated in the Declaration that were promised to us, but sadly never really fulfilled. Sadly, we might need a second Revolution and another Declaration, as well as a better Constitution to achieve it.
I also lived during that period of time. My grandmother and father lived through Nazi Germany, my grandfather did not fare as well. I knew their stories. I watched in horror of many great men, assassinated because of their beliefs in our Constitutional Laws. America will never be great again, those same type of people are being beaten down to except it or pay the consequences. The sad part is that the followers felt that by kissing ass they would escape Maga Retributions, and are finding out, they are going to pay the price.
My uncle was first in liberating one of the camps. He never would speak of it. It was that traumatic. We will lose our status of superpower, but we can save our nation.
My grandmother was the same, yet when she spoke, she spoke of the dangers within her country. Wasn't till she rolled up her sleeves, (always long sleeves), to do the dishes that we saw the tat, and through education that she was in a concentration camp, that her warnings were her life's story of the hell she survived.
Wow! I only watched on tv at that point, but the indelible memory has most probably influenced my politics...(As has living in decent European nations with national health, child care, child support, paid vacations in every job...and the living and visual reminders all over of WWII)
Mild mannered, middle aged woman here in a red state. Pacifist, anti gun my whole life...until after the election when I bought myself a Smith and Wesson 9mm and learned how to use it. Radicalized at 55 was not on my bingo card.
Do you really think it will come to that? I don’t have any weapons. How soon?? I’m planing on moving to S America next year..but that feels like a long ways away.
It might. A lot of the MAGANuts are armed, Trumpty Dumpty is talking about sending our own military into cities to put down any unrest. We'll need to defend ourselves. At the barest minimum. We're already at war.
I've recently had multiple non-firearm experienced people approach me regarding firearm selection, safety and shooting lessons (I steered them to a certified instructor). Every one of them are concerned about MAGA.
I wouldn’t call it radicalization. Fighting for your right to live in an equitable and free society is not extremist. There’s no moral equivalency between the two parties. The Left is pro-Democracy, equal rights, freedom of thought etc. and the Right is motivated by hate, ignorance and supremacy. 😕
"Radicalized" in the sense that people who would never dream of bringing a gun into their lives are now going to the range. That's a big moral shift, which the times require.
They >want< to turn this into a banana republic, the defining features of which are a few super rich oligarch scums and everyone else in abject poverty.
It’s just fine. There are 15 million people openly opposed to Putin. Nothing happens to almost all of them and nothing will happen.
Go to downtown Moscow and walk around with a camera asking those young people about politics. They will all say they hate Putin and hate the war. And MANY will say they support Ukraine. A BBC journalist did that and put it on the air. Nothing happened to any of them.
In a recent election Putin only got 70% of the vote. The opposition got 30%! What kind of a dictatorship is that? Bullshit. No dictatorship is like that. Putin has an excellent relationship with most of the opposition.
Those pro-US people you like? I know Russians. Talked to many of them. They ALL call those people “the traitors.” Everybody hates them.
Putin is genuinely loved by his people. Russia is socialist almost communist country and the government does many good things for its people. The opposition you love are free marketeers. Basically Republicans. The Kremlin polls the people obsessively. They want to stay in power.
Been around lots of a Russians in the last 10 years. Most of you don’t understand one damned thing about that country.
They’re not dummies. They’re brainwashed by the lying media and government and ignorant of the facts about Russia. It’s very hard to find out the truth about Russia. Most people have no idea how to do it and won’t spend 10 years studying it like I did.
Not sure about that..As here in America, you obey and become ass kissers or face poisoning, disappearing, in prison. Americans have been promised that we are to follow and comply or face the consequences.
Russia and China both have shown how they keep their dictatorship, as Hitler did..Think about it, of they can hack into Our election system, to spread propaganda and indoctrination, would they not do it in their own..
Or the very beginnings of its current iteration, depending on one's perspective. Thinking specifically of the long game that's been playing out, described in historian, Nancy MacLean's book, "Democracy in Chains" here...
unless we act, free and fair elections will not be happening again. Check out all the countries Trump wants to emulate: they either have no elections or sham elections.
Elections are conducted by the states. We just had two special elections in MN and IA, both which bode well for a massive midterm loss. The Iowa Dem flipped a Trump+21 seat while the MN Dem won the very blue seat by a whopping 91%.
They already have them fixed. Did you hear the evidence about all the sus ballots in the seven swings states. I’m talking about ballots with only the presidents name selected and nothing else filled out down ballot. Typically the rate of these has consistently been around 1% for any candidate including Trump in 2016. But now the data shows the percentage of these type of ballots favoring Trump in the 7 swing states rose to 5 to 11%. Way outside of previous norms.
I've worked elections in Georgia for over two decades. What I've seen so far is nonsense spouted by well meaning people who have nice theories that fail when you learn how we actually do things on the ground. I'm not saying there's no danger. Just quit barking up the wrong tree while they fuck us using voter suppression they've used since Reconstruction. Keep an eye on Marc Elias and Democracy Docket. His group is up on the details and acts to protect our votes.
Trump. Trump and Musk and I’m afraid not a small number of others, stole the election by hacking the voting machines. That’s not a theory. That’s a fact.
Yes! This! Election integrity needs to not get put on the backburner..a republican in WA state has brought up a bill to ban mail-in ballots.. it needs to fail.
I saw a post by Pam - , listing all the EO by trump since Jan 20. It's overwhelming. But there are many of us. We need to divvy up the challenge. ( not ignoring The Opinionated Ogre )
In the face of danger, when threatened, the body releases adrenaline and it triggers the fight-or-flight response. I don’t think I’m much different from a lot of Americans. It will be a cold day in hell before I run away. And you know what’s left. Don’t believe me? Fuck around and find out.
This was exactly my thought when he started carrying his kid around on his shoulders. Most parents would want to keep their kids out of the line of danger. Not Elmo.
Until Donald Trump and his disgusting family came down that escalator, I was a lifelong pacifist. Almost immediately, the words spewing from trump's vile maw made me want to kick something. I found myself having fantasies of violence- you can guess at whom.
I am not sure that there is another way to defeat these guys and save our world.
I am 70, and pissed as hell, and am a pretty energetic human. But, I don't bear the bottomless rage of the younger generation who is being fucked out of their rightful future because of these sick, greedy billionaires. And I am ready to be led by an army of angry youth to take these creeps down.
And i also wonder how close this post gets to triggering these assholes to react in a very unpleasant way.
I am also 70 and so pissed off. And I agree. No other way other than (sadly) working the same way they are, which is taking the law into our own hands.
The younger generations have no knowledge of the struggles this country has gone through in its over 200 years of existence. This is why they are being so easily fooled by professional cons whose ends are tyrannical. History is lacking in the teachings of today. World wars, worthless wars, recession, depression. People are outraged over 6% interest rates, which can be considered a bit high, but there was a time we went through 11%, 13% 17% We didn't feel the need to wipe out the government and hire an incompetent, felonious madman.
Agree. And throw in supine Democratic politicians, a radical Supreme Court ready to torch basic human rights and let Trump do whatever he wants and you’ve got a tinderbox. I hope. Because all of this can’t continue. People feel helpless.
You speak for me. We didn't see the extent of the coup; they aren't seeing the extent of the rage. Wealthy people never do see it coming because they're protected and isolated and safe--until the ordinary folks smash the walls and kick down the door.
Luigi didn't make that shot cuz he was an unhinged lunatic.....he didn't like being alive and sent a message....the rich are too stuoid to understand and the media too sold and blaa blaa let's just get to the nest phase this one is tired lol cry weep..freeeeedom
I knew more than a few people who became WeatherMorons back then - mostly the over-educated under-intelligent sons and daughters of the shallow end of the upper middle class gene pool. They did fuckall for the movement, other than give J. Edgar Fruitfly the ability to claim the rest of us were them. I knew all four of the fuckwits who blew themselves up with their incompetence at handling explosives in the New York Townhouse explosion.
The suviving idiots are mostly self-important unrepentant people one avoids when running across them. They all got jobs in Acadamania after they apologized to the judges in court. Some of them even became friends of Obama when he didn't know any better (Thinking of you, Bill and Bernardine) They were all hopeless Socialite Socialists who thought they were South American guerillas.
If you think these incompetent dumbfucks were someone to emulate, then you really don't understand politics. All those dingdongs did was kill the movement. As angry as I get at the Silly Con Valley Bros, I believe in using the power of that anger to do something effective - like organize an actual opposition.
Sitting here with overgrown-adolescent fantasies shows only that none of you have read the history of violent revolutions - which never end up where the idealists think they'll go, taken over by the Stalins and the Maos and Jacobins and the ones worse than them.
Ok fine you can smartsplain the rising tide of anger as being hopelessly unhelpful all you like. Assassins typically are not driven by your advice. Nor are mobs. Nor are authoritarians. It’s a volatile mixture of rage going on that’s tossed into a country awash in weapons. My read is that bloody skirmishes of a variety of descriptions are primed to happen in 3, 2, 1…
If the coup underway as we debate this on Substack and elsewhere fails to eliminate our Constitution and upcoming elections, I’ll certainly show up and vote against the assholes fully engaged in destroying our democracy. Frankly, based on the destruction we’re seeing in a matter of days, I’m struggling to believe our institutions have any chance surviving until that theoretical next election in 2026, hundreds of days from now.
It's not just the rage, though. It's the fact that law and order are clearly not effective against these cretins. They and republicans have abandoned any semblance of Constitutional order, and our judiciary is compromised. Way I see it, we (the citizens) would be countering a violent revolution, rather than starting one. JMO.
And they have been courting the police for years! I'm holding a very small amount of hope for our military but I'm not optimistic judging by the way every other institution has been comprised.
I'm right there with you on that one! This agenda is very well thought out and being pushed as fast as they can! I don't hold out much hope for the midterms!
In one year they set off 50,000 bombs. I used to be on their mailing list for the Weathermen! I still support them to the hilt. They were trying to stop the Vietnam War. And they did, didn’t they?
China, Cuba, Nicaragua, Eritrea, Iran, and Vietnam are doing great. The USSR was a great country for decades. They did great things in El Salvador too.
Oh it's different alright. I am a life-long pacifist and proponent of non-violent social change. But I am so enraged at what he has done/is doing that if he can't (for whatever reason) be arrested, charged, and convicted ASAP for his crimes against the American people, and he can't (for whatever reason) be deported and permanently banned from US soil ASAP, then what I want for him is no longer something I can safely say out loud or online. I will not apologize or reconsider my position on this.
You are not alone.
I've become a believer in the concept of "prophylactic assassination." Which is what Luigi did.
I should also mention that my belief in that is mostly when I read news of that idiot Elmo. I very definitely would advocate against anything like what Luigi did on the political stage. The enemy would use such an event to bring on Reichstag Fire On Steroids; there is already the fact that Dilbert would like to use the Insurrection Act - which is pretty thorough in giving him truly dictatorial powers - and looks for the excuse to do so. Which we must not give him.
The only thing stoping him is that the population and size of the country is bigger than the military and their available resource’s. I think there is an understanding that taking that action would cross the line for everyone and then he would have real issues.
These are Luigi needed times.
love it
The ‘stunts’ being pulled are beyond infuriating and are generating an enormous amount of outrage and hate, rightly so!!! For me, especially, are cruel acts that endanger innocent Americans who are just trying to live their lives… for example, shutting down the CDC with a potential pandemic in the works, and NOAA, with hurricane season pending, a real danger for those of us in hurricane alley, 🤬🤬🤬
(But LOLOL “prophylactic assassination”)
Your idea is tempting, but I fear dangerous. Where are the LEGAL powers?
They are AWOL.
Even Marshall Rosenberg acknowledged that there is such a thing as “the protective use of force”. I, too, find myself considering what sort of extrajudicial remedies would be appropriate in this case.
Shouldn't need it if cops, FBI etc were active.
Except most cops and FBI are already MAGA.
Of course they are…as cops, CIA, Military are all likely to be. Sorry, but I think all hope is lost.
Not all hope. Not everyone in the military are MAGANuts. Think Gen. Mark Milley - and he's not by any means the only one.
same, get in line. 😹
There are many of us and growing daily
I'm a lifelong activist, too. I started at 18 protesting that first corporate tool President, Reagan. We need MILLIONS in the street, like South Korea, to stop all of this. How do we do it? Now the Koch-funded fake grassroots orgs are producing enemies lists, using DEI and contributing to Dems as reasons to brand someone a traitor. These MAGA cultists need to get their heads out of Trump's behind and join us, or they will go down with us.
You are so not alone as Aurelie said.
A lot of us feel EXACTLY the same way! Also, after being mostly pacific.
Same.
You are definitely not alone.
When decisions are made it’s best to look at what you want to go towards rather than get away from. There is so much turmoil but for me a simple distillation is the takeover of the nation by oligarchs.
What do we want to go to?
I'd like to go to the founding principles enumerated in the Declaration that were promised to us, but sadly never really fulfilled. Sadly, we might need a second Revolution and another Declaration, as well as a better Constitution to achieve it.
Same. Luigi isn't where it stops, and neither were the other two gunmen. I'm looking forward to celebrating the eventual holidays.
Same.
The general mood recently :)))
You are not alone. I have said several times that if I spoke my mind I would have the guys in black suits and mirrored sunglasses at my front door.
Good news! They've been fired.
And replaced with the Keystone Kops.
I lived thru the "police riot" of the 1968 Dem Convention. I'm old now so I ain't got nothing to lose. By any means necessary.
I also lived during that period of time. My grandmother and father lived through Nazi Germany, my grandfather did not fare as well. I knew their stories. I watched in horror of many great men, assassinated because of their beliefs in our Constitutional Laws. America will never be great again, those same type of people are being beaten down to except it or pay the consequences. The sad part is that the followers felt that by kissing ass they would escape Maga Retributions, and are finding out, they are going to pay the price.
My uncle was first in liberating one of the camps. He never would speak of it. It was that traumatic. We will lose our status of superpower, but we can save our nation.
My grandmother was the same, yet when she spoke, she spoke of the dangers within her country. Wasn't till she rolled up her sleeves, (always long sleeves), to do the dishes that we saw the tat, and through education that she was in a concentration camp, that her warnings were her life's story of the hell she survived.
Same.
"The whole world is watching!!
The whole world is watching!!"
Wow! I only watched on tv at that point, but the indelible memory has most probably influenced my politics...(As has living in decent European nations with national health, child care, child support, paid vacations in every job...and the living and visual reminders all over of WWII)
I lived through that too. I was a mere boy, only 11, but I watched the whole thing on TV.
Ditto, except I was only 5.
Mild mannered, middle aged woman here in a red state. Pacifist, anti gun my whole life...until after the election when I bought myself a Smith and Wesson 9mm and learned how to use it. Radicalized at 55 was not on my bingo card.
Welcome to liberal gun ownership! There’s lots of us.
Damn I wish I could afford one. I guess I'll have to kill a Proud Boy with my bare hands and steal it from him.
Me either Dawn. But here we are. Hang in there.
Best prepare for the worse, hope for the best and shoot down the middle. Nice 9mm you got there. I prefer a Baretta, but 9mm is 9mm don'tcha know.
Be sure to get to the range at least twice a week.😳👏👏
I'm kinda partial to the Glock 45 but I don't have the dough right now.
Buy more guns and ammo now and learn how to use them. We are going to need them
Do you really think it will come to that? I don’t have any weapons. How soon?? I’m planing on moving to S America next year..but that feels like a long ways away.
It might. A lot of the MAGANuts are armed, Trumpty Dumpty is talking about sending our own military into cities to put down any unrest. We'll need to defend ourselves. At the barest minimum. We're already at war.
I’m thinking of getting a shotgun instead of a handgun.
👍👍 Easy to maintain, highly effective at close range.
Get a second one and saw off the stocks.
I've recently had multiple non-firearm experienced people approach me regarding firearm selection, safety and shooting lessons (I steered them to a certified instructor). Every one of them are concerned about MAGA.
I wouldn’t call it radicalization. Fighting for your right to live in an equitable and free society is not extremist. There’s no moral equivalency between the two parties. The Left is pro-Democracy, equal rights, freedom of thought etc. and the Right is motivated by hate, ignorance and supremacy. 😕
"Radicalized" in the sense that people who would never dream of bringing a gun into their lives are now going to the range. That's a big moral shift, which the times require.
I'm debating whether I need to reacquaint myself with the skills I learned in my youth.
I don't know what skills you're referring to, but it sounds like a good idea just the same.
Same!
Same.
MAGA has to ask themselves - do you want Luigis? Because this is how you get Luigis.
That would require critical thinking skills on their part.
Or >any< thinking skills on their part.
They should also be asking themselves, do we want to become a failed state like Russia?
Hungary is a failed state, too, and Trump loves Orban and is going by his playbook.
This is a continuation of the Jan 6 coup. This is where the oligarchs raid our govt and dismantle it, and use it to increase their hoarded wealth.
They >want< to turn this into a banana republic, the defining features of which are a few super rich oligarch scums and everyone else in abject poverty.
Neither Hungary nor certainly Russia USA failed state. Putin has 83% popularity.
I’m not sure it would be safe to say otherwise 😂
It’s just fine. There are 15 million people openly opposed to Putin. Nothing happens to almost all of them and nothing will happen.
Go to downtown Moscow and walk around with a camera asking those young people about politics. They will all say they hate Putin and hate the war. And MANY will say they support Ukraine. A BBC journalist did that and put it on the air. Nothing happened to any of them.
In a recent election Putin only got 70% of the vote. The opposition got 30%! What kind of a dictatorship is that? Bullshit. No dictatorship is like that. Putin has an excellent relationship with most of the opposition.
Those pro-US people you like? I know Russians. Talked to many of them. They ALL call those people “the traitors.” Everybody hates them.
Putin is genuinely loved by his people. Russia is socialist almost communist country and the government does many good things for its people. The opposition you love are free marketeers. Basically Republicans. The Kremlin polls the people obsessively. They want to stay in power.
Been around lots of a Russians in the last 10 years. Most of you don’t understand one damned thing about that country.
What died in your water, dude?
If you think "most of you (us)" are dummies, then teach people, address the issue maturely and intelligently. Take your anger to X.
They’re not dummies. They’re brainwashed by the lying media and government and ignorant of the facts about Russia. It’s very hard to find out the truth about Russia. Most people have no idea how to do it and won’t spend 10 years studying it like I did.
That's what they'd want you to think. Russia is a shit hole.
I know more about Russia than you will in 10 lifetimes. And I can certainly state that you are wrong. And the economy is doing great too.
Not sure about that..As here in America, you obey and become ass kissers or face poisoning, disappearing, in prison. Americans have been promised that we are to follow and comply or face the consequences.
Russia and China both have shown how they keep their dictatorship, as Hitler did..Think about it, of they can hack into Our election system, to spread propaganda and indoctrination, would they not do it in their own..
It is the oligarchs who should be asking this…
They really think because we are pro gun safety that we won’t fight back.
Sooner or later, they're going to find out - the hard way.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
Said by conservative stalwart Barry Goldwater, no less! (Yes, I saw what you did there and I approve!)
This is where this 60 year fascist movement started: the Goldwater campaign. The Birchers. None Dare Call It Treason.
And that collection of kooks were the idiot end of the GOP back then.
Ask the idiot in the White House to interpret that ! That stupid old fucker couldn’t even speak it.
At least not without drooling on his bib.
Or the very beginnings of its current iteration, depending on one's perspective. Thinking specifically of the long game that's been playing out, described in historian, Nancy MacLean's book, "Democracy in Chains" here...
They are the heirs of MAGA. That’s how MAGA started.
I'm going long on guillotines.
Pitchforks and tiki torches for that extra feel of the 18th century.
Must be rusty and they they can’t get their tetanus vaccine updated because brain worm canceled the the vaccine v
And hatchets. Don't forget the hatchets.
Elon has a date with Mme G.
Mussolini retaliation would be just awful
And I want them laying on their backs so they can watch the blade
This is the problem with the emphasis on STEM only- these techie clowns never learned the lessons behind the French Revolution.
Think guillotines would also be good.
I am seeing a huge turnout in protestors here in North Carolina as part of the national protest FDJT and Elmo’s power grab movement day.
I want to see this energy at the polls this year and 2026. Don’t just attend a political rally and then not vote for Democrats.
unless we act, free and fair elections will not be happening again. Check out all the countries Trump wants to emulate: they either have no elections or sham elections.
Elections are conducted by the states. We just had two special elections in MN and IA, both which bode well for a massive midterm loss. The Iowa Dem flipped a Trump+21 seat while the MN Dem won the very blue seat by a whopping 91%.
Elno and FDJT may be evil but they’re stupid too.
Voters suppression is their main tool to affect vote totals. We gotta fight that harder.
They lack wisdom, moral compass, empathy, though not entirely stupid. They have enough animal intelligence and cunning to be dangerous.
That's the best news I've seen all day.
They already have them fixed. Did you hear the evidence about all the sus ballots in the seven swings states. I’m talking about ballots with only the presidents name selected and nothing else filled out down ballot. Typically the rate of these has consistently been around 1% for any candidate including Trump in 2016. But now the data shows the percentage of these type of ballots favoring Trump in the 7 swing states rose to 5 to 11%. Way outside of previous norms.
I've worked elections in Georgia for over two decades. What I've seen so far is nonsense spouted by well meaning people who have nice theories that fail when you learn how we actually do things on the ground. I'm not saying there's no danger. Just quit barking up the wrong tree while they fuck us using voter suppression they've used since Reconstruction. Keep an eye on Marc Elias and Democracy Docket. His group is up on the details and acts to protect our votes.
You are dead wrong, pal. Apparently you don’t understand statistics. 1/330 million chance of being the correct result? Nah. Fraud.
Oh by the way, Harris thinks there was electoral fraud in this election. Take it from me.
You're hilarious, Missy.
You’re full of shit, cunt.
They stole the election. Some of those statistics had 1/333 million chance of being correct.
Who’s “they”?
Trump. Trump and Musk and I’m afraid not a small number of others, stole the election by hacking the voting machines. That’s not a theory. That’s a fact.
Prove it- even just a little bit and I’ll donate to a lawsuit. And not by some sleight of hand statistics, either. Actual evidence.
Yes! This! Election integrity needs to not get put on the backburner..a republican in WA state has brought up a bill to ban mail-in ballots.. it needs to fail.
I saw a post by Pam - , listing all the EO by trump since Jan 20. It's overwhelming. But there are many of us. We need to divvy up the challenge. ( not ignoring The Opinionated Ogre )
Russia anyone? 💯🎯💙✌🏻
Starlink
AND they're all failed states, consequently.
None of them are, actually. Which are these states he wants to emulate? Hungary? Russia?
I mean, a lot of the Dems are voting with Republicans right now, kinda hard to have any faith in them.
This right here is why I've never belonged to a political party, and never will.
Who besides Fetterman?
I AM a hillbilly 😊
I am too! And I have lots of firearms and plenty of ammo! And an attitude towards NAZIS!!
Me, too, literally. 🤜🏽
Oooo! I don’t think Elmo wants the wrath of the hillbillies. He needs to speak to Vance 😂
And they’re going to try to steal the election like they stole this last one.
Maybe even Dems need a rethink?
Yes, the rising tide of rage is palpable now.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy.
Very wise man.
I honestly don’t care how Elump is removed; body bag or handcuffs works for me.
Elump? 😊
My favorite new term for the ugly morph of Trump and Elon
Thats good. 😂😂😂
Absofuckinlutely.
In the face of danger, when threatened, the body releases adrenaline and it triggers the fight-or-flight response. I don’t think I’m much different from a lot of Americans. It will be a cold day in hell before I run away. And you know what’s left. Don’t believe me? Fuck around and find out.
Musk is going to use "his fearless leader" as his body shield.😂
Maybe, Danielle. But it would be like protecting himself with a jelly doughnut.
After Luigi he started walking around with one of his small sons on his shoulders. Did you notice? His human shield
Yup, nothing says tough guy like using your kid as a meat shield.
This was exactly my thought when he started carrying his kid around on his shoulders. Most parents would want to keep their kids out of the line of danger. Not Elmo.
Self centered Nazi shitbag! He couldn't care less about his kids or anybody else for that matter!
It will make a nasty, smelly mess when the bullets fly.
I'll be ready for their sorry white supremist hate spewing asses! I never was much for talking to nazis!
👍 Time for some fucking ass kicking, mikeyman6.
I agree totally! Sick of these wannabe badasses!
Until Donald Trump and his disgusting family came down that escalator, I was a lifelong pacifist. Almost immediately, the words spewing from trump's vile maw made me want to kick something. I found myself having fantasies of violence- you can guess at whom.
I am not sure that there is another way to defeat these guys and save our world.
I am 70, and pissed as hell, and am a pretty energetic human. But, I don't bear the bottomless rage of the younger generation who is being fucked out of their rightful future because of these sick, greedy billionaires. And I am ready to be led by an army of angry youth to take these creeps down.
And i also wonder how close this post gets to triggering these assholes to react in a very unpleasant way.
I’m 37 and I share your sentiments.
Nancy, I’m 73, and feel just the same.
I am also 70 and so pissed off. And I agree. No other way other than (sadly) working the same way they are, which is taking the law into our own hands.
62 here - feel the same
Ditto. Vintage '63 and ready to do some deep sixing.
The younger generations have no knowledge of the struggles this country has gone through in its over 200 years of existence. This is why they are being so easily fooled by professional cons whose ends are tyrannical. History is lacking in the teachings of today. World wars, worthless wars, recession, depression. People are outraged over 6% interest rates, which can be considered a bit high, but there was a time we went through 11%, 13% 17% We didn't feel the need to wipe out the government and hire an incompetent, felonious madman.
Which is too bad because they're soon enough about to experience it firsthand.
I'm pretty sure they have been seeing a lot of them on all of the platforms!!
They 'angry' youth are all glued to games on their digital titties.
Agree. And throw in supine Democratic politicians, a radical Supreme Court ready to torch basic human rights and let Trump do whatever he wants and you’ve got a tinderbox. I hope. Because all of this can’t continue. People feel helpless.
a few Democrats have actually appeared to have some kind of backbone- but the majority are still worried about their stock portfolios, i guess.
Too bad they weren’t worried about us as much as their net worth.
The Democrats filibustered that last nominee for 24 hours.
It's not going to get better until it gets a lot worse. A lot of people are riding the fence right now.
All of the Democrats voted no on that last nominee.
It's turns to anger quickly and then disobedience and then...
You speak for me. We didn't see the extent of the coup; they aren't seeing the extent of the rage. Wealthy people never do see it coming because they're protected and isolated and safe--until the ordinary folks smash the walls and kick down the door.
Luigi didn't make that shot cuz he was an unhinged lunatic.....he didn't like being alive and sent a message....the rich are too stuoid to understand and the media too sold and blaa blaa let's just get to the nest phase this one is tired lol cry weep..freeeeedom
As far as the rich go, some people never learn.
I've been fantasizing about Elon meeting the same fate as Mussolini. He'd look good strung up by his heels, dontcha think?
I was thinking more along the lines of Marie Antoinette's fate, but Mussolini's will do.
In the 1970's there were more than 600 bombings in the US. So it wasn't just the 1960's.
I knew more than a few people who became WeatherMorons back then - mostly the over-educated under-intelligent sons and daughters of the shallow end of the upper middle class gene pool. They did fuckall for the movement, other than give J. Edgar Fruitfly the ability to claim the rest of us were them. I knew all four of the fuckwits who blew themselves up with their incompetence at handling explosives in the New York Townhouse explosion.
The suviving idiots are mostly self-important unrepentant people one avoids when running across them. They all got jobs in Acadamania after they apologized to the judges in court. Some of them even became friends of Obama when he didn't know any better (Thinking of you, Bill and Bernardine) They were all hopeless Socialite Socialists who thought they were South American guerillas.
If you think these incompetent dumbfucks were someone to emulate, then you really don't understand politics. All those dingdongs did was kill the movement. As angry as I get at the Silly Con Valley Bros, I believe in using the power of that anger to do something effective - like organize an actual opposition.
Sitting here with overgrown-adolescent fantasies shows only that none of you have read the history of violent revolutions - which never end up where the idealists think they'll go, taken over by the Stalins and the Maos and Jacobins and the ones worse than them.
Ok fine you can smartsplain the rising tide of anger as being hopelessly unhelpful all you like. Assassins typically are not driven by your advice. Nor are mobs. Nor are authoritarians. It’s a volatile mixture of rage going on that’s tossed into a country awash in weapons. My read is that bloody skirmishes of a variety of descriptions are primed to happen in 3, 2, 1…
If the coup underway as we debate this on Substack and elsewhere fails to eliminate our Constitution and upcoming elections, I’ll certainly show up and vote against the assholes fully engaged in destroying our democracy. Frankly, based on the destruction we’re seeing in a matter of days, I’m struggling to believe our institutions have any chance surviving until that theoretical next election in 2026, hundreds of days from now.
It's not just the rage, though. It's the fact that law and order are clearly not effective against these cretins. They and republicans have abandoned any semblance of Constitutional order, and our judiciary is compromised. Way I see it, we (the citizens) would be countering a violent revolution, rather than starting one. JMO.
And they have been courting the police for years! I'm holding a very small amount of hope for our military but I'm not optimistic judging by the way every other institution has been comprised.
Desperate times call for desperate measures
I'm right there with you on that one! This agenda is very well thought out and being pushed as fast as they can! I don't hold out much hope for the midterms!
Wasn't them. It was the offshoot wannabes and FBI infiltrators working their magic like they did with the BPP.😳
In one year they set off 50,000 bombs. I used to be on their mailing list for the Weathermen! I still support them to the hilt. They were trying to stop the Vietnam War. And they did, didn’t they?
China, Cuba, Nicaragua, Eritrea, Iran, and Vietnam are doing great. The USSR was a great country for decades. They did great things in El Salvador too.
Sadly Revolution breeds worse before calm sanity and time breeds better…..unless you are in Russia.
Some of us lived through them too.
Try 50,000. I used to be the mailing list for the Weathermen. I know what I’m talking about.